Will A Pro-Gaddafi “Green Revolution” Topple The NTC?

By Franklin Lamb

15 January, 2012
Countercurrents.org

Tripoli :This observer was stunned late last week when during a meeting in a Maghreb country with three high ranking former Libyan officials, among hundreds currently in hiding, and some organizing, in countries bordering Libya, one of them, in all earnest, asked me, “Do you believe there will be a counter revolution soon in the “Jamarariya (state of the masses)?”

The reason I was so surprised is that I was about to ask my hosts that very question. I was thinking that with all their security and serious faced male visitors, some western, coming and going and whispering that the reported Libyan Liberation Front groups along the Seral might be making some progress after not hearing much about them recently.

Of course this observer has little idea if the much talked ‘Green Revolution’ is strong or could topple the current NATO created and imposed government.

Certainly there are heard today many complaints in Libya about the do-nothing “non-government” that increasingly people in all walks of life are boldly complaining about. What I have observed personally is that nearly all the reports on events in Libya on certain Internet sites are false. Frankly this was also the case during the summer months here in Libya when patently false claims about NATO using MAP 108 Spanish manufactured cluster bombs against civilian or loyalist military targets, NATO using depleted uranium, or that 150,000 Libyan civilians were killed were posted as truth “from reliable sources inside Libya.” Or additional wild claims, for example, that Misrata and other areas were always in loyalist control and that the rebels were surrendering en masse and that NATO was admitting defeat the next day.

A couple of recent false claims include:

– Last week a much circulated report that: “There are green flags flying all over Zawia and the Green Revolution has captured the town!” Quite by coincidence the evening I read that claim on the Internet, I had just come from Sorman and while en route was given a tour of the battle sites from the July-August fighting in Zawia by NTC checkpoint minders. We observed most the intense battle sites including the Gadhafi Hotel site and various other Zawia locations. I observed approximately 35 captured government tanks parked along the main road and still in working condition but there was not one Green (pro-Gadhafi) flag to be seen. I had just come from a cemetery outside of Zabratha where I saw local police/militia removing green cloth swatches from graves of some who had died during the summer fighting. Green flags if they appear in Tripoli are quickly removed and replaced with the tricolor of the NTC.

-Reports that Saif al Islam has married a Zintan tribe woman and has been seen taking walks with his captors and that they are defecting to his leadership. According to the military commander of the Zintan militia group holding Saif, this is also nonsense and he claimed that the Zintan “brigade” (none of the groups here like being referred to as “militia “ these days) are not preventing Saif from seeing a lawyer but that the permission must come from the Ministry of Justice in Tripoli. Specifically, from Mr. Abdul Aziz Hazaii, Chief of Investigations at the MJ and the gentleman from whom this observer is currently awaiting approval to visit 11 incarcerated individuals.

All of us know that misinformation and disinformation are common during armed conflicts, often politically motivated. But such grossly exaggerated and unsubstantiated claims and conspiracy theories only aid the aggressors, in this case, NATO.

There is clear and growing pro-Gadhafi political and military activity here and it is why NTC leader Mustapha Abdul Jalil, the other day warned against the Gadhafi children raising an insurrection. Aisha Gadhafi, given Saif’s current incarceration, is perhaps the likely leader, given her intelligence, energy and strong commitment to replace “NATO’s rebels”, vindicate her father, preserve his correct legacy, and organize a reform movement along the lines that she and some family members and loyalists were working–with the approval, she claims, of her father before his death.

Every night more pro-Gadhafi graffiti appears on street walls, buildings and around Green (Martyrs) Square. Activists, and there appear to be more every day, assert that so far the NTC has not attacked them and they feel fairly free to speak out and even organize. It is anyone’s guess how long this situation will exist before a violent crackdown and open fighting.

It is difficult to gage the anti-NTC/ pro-Gadhafi mix and the extent to which each is propelling increasingly unpredictable events in Libya.

Yet, with the elimination of Muammar Gadhafi, which was NATO’s clear intension from March 19 when it took over the UNSCR 1973 campaign against Libya, NATO correctly concluded that without Gadhafi’s charismatic leadership in Libya and in the region, any “Green counter-revolution” would be very difficult. That is what we are seeing today.

While the restive Libyan population appears to be rebelling against the NTC for a variety of reasons, today, the urinating by NATO forces on the bodies of Afghanis is dominating the news and discussions is this pious Muslim country. NATO has already lost much of its claimed public relations boost following its Halloween night ending of the bombing. One suspects that this is because of an accumulation of many more recently discovered cases of NATO bombing of civilians in Libya and additionally the reports of innocent non-threatening soldiers as in Pakistan, Iraq, and Afghanistan. The population today in Libya is increasingly furious because more and more cases are coming to light concerning the high numbers of children who have been killed by NATO.

In addition to the fury caused by the urinating NATO forces, NATO officials are being ridiculed for all their denials that their bombing missions here in Libya, numbering more than 11,000, caused civilians deaths and their claims that NATO forces conducted themselves according to the higher moral and military standards, and sometimes put themselves at risk to avoid civilian casualties. The claims remind some of a generation of similar ludicrous public relations campaign undertaken regularly by the Israeli government.

The signs from Libya are that this country remains volatile and that contrary to NATO claims that it put into place a “new democratic Libya” that the predictable next chapter is starting to unfold that may bring the end of the NTC before the coming June elections when it is scheduled to be replaced.

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7 Responses to Will A Pro-Gaddafi “Green Revolution” Topple The NTC?

  1. Thank God that you have the courage to still be in Libya Franklin.
    I do not know how you do it because it must be still incredibly dangerous, but I am glad that you do.

    These Libyan people need you more than ever and I thank God that you keep doing what you do.

    I wished I was made of the same stuff as you but regretfully I am not and so I stay in the relative safety of my own Australia.

    I am also appreciative of your legal background and forensic skills that allow you to write with great precision and yet keep it simple and of course you stick to the facts as you see them.

    I hope and pray that when the time is most opportune, that the Libyan people take back their freedom and Liberty.

    If they are patient and calculating, they will set up contingencies and the like and if things are done the right way will triumph with minimal loss of life.
    The old empires are almost exhausted and so in time the possibility may come when NATO will be too busy controlling the angry masses in Europe, USA and other Western nations when their ecconomies collapse.
    This is perhaps wishful thinking but given the present status of the World Ecconomy, this may yet come to pass.

    Anyway, I pray you continue to have strength and safety and I will put this reference on my facebook site which has other like minded people on it as my friends.
    May God be with you always.

    Sincerely,

    Stephen Olof Wikblom

    Sheep Shearer…Australia

  2. F. Ade says:

    I have read many of Franklin Lamb’s commentaries & view his claim to be the authoritative voice on Libya with great suspicion. No doubt he gathers his news thro’ sources, which he then subjects to his own interpretation & opinon, the credibility of which, as readers we have to be unsure. Until I get conclusive reports to the contrary, I believe the repeated reports about the use of depleted uranium etc ( including estimates of dead of more than 40,000). Has he carried out an investigation to prove his position? I will continue to exercise discretion about his status & comments in these matters, as I do with all reports, pro Gaddafi or otherwise, especially since the mainstream media cannot be relied on at all. Perhaps its time he explained the claim he represents the Gaddafi family in a law suit to bring Saif to the ICC, which is now discredited; much like many of is duplicitous comments on pro Gaddafi acitivities, right from the beginning of the conflict. He underestimates the the power of the human will, especially when clear atrocities have been commited against the innocent, by foreigners. Maligning other commentators on Libya is not the sign of an honesty or good character.

  3. F. Ade says:

    I have read many of Franklin Lamb’s commentaries & view his claim to be the authoritative voice on Libya with great suspicion. No doubt he gathers his news thro’ sources, which he then subjects to his own interpretation & opinon, the credibility of which, as readers we have to be unsure. Until I get conclusive reports to the contrary, I believe the repeated reports about the use of depleted uranium etc ( including estimates of dead of more than 40,000). Has he carried out an investigation to prove his position? I will continue to exercise discretion about his status & comments in these matters, as I do with all reports, pro Gaddafi or otherwise, especially since the mainstream media cannot be relied on at all. Perhaps its time he explained the claim he represents the Gaddafi family in a law suit to bring Saif to the ICC, which is now discredited; much like many of is duplicitous comments on pro Gaddafi acitivities, right from the beginning of the conflict. He underestimates the the power of the human will, especially when clear atrocities have been commited against the innocent, by foreigners. Maligning other commentators on Libya is not the sign of honesty or good character.

  4. marc says:

    there are cluster bombs in libya videos on youtube, anyone can watch, what is he talking about?

  5. We share your concerns about this article but believe it contains enough new and interesting insights into what is happening on the ground in Libya to justify re-publishing it.

  6. Anonymous says:

    I live in the U.S.A, and therefore do NOT feel free to comment openly and honestly my opinions. I believe anyone’s communications may be being electronically surveyed and therefore, no one is safe to communicate openly and honestly, if they at ALL express doubts about the U.S gov’t’s stance.

  7. Anonymous says:

    What bothers me is, it seems it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to know the REAL TRUTH of what’s going on in Libya, or who Muammar Gadaffi really was? Was he really a ‘good guy’? Or was he at all the monster that Obama paints him to be? Did his people truly thrive under his regime?

    I’m not going to leave my email because, I live in the U.S.A., and don’t want to make it any easier to draw attention to myself, because, my experience of most Americans is, we are a narrow-minded, fearful lot of people, afraid to even examine the possibility that we are being duped or otherwise severely misled by our gov’ts, media and others in power.

    But I am going to bookmark this page, so I can come back to it, to see how others might reply to my posts.

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